Abortion Conversations with Men- Chris
This week we’re joined by Chris Menné. Chris left an established career as an airline pilot, and immersed himself in graduate studies of Psychology, Consciousness, and Spirituality, eventually receiving an MA in Transpersonal Psychology.
You can learn more about Chris’ relationship work HERE
Show Notes:
How do we show up and have conversations about hard things when we are the individuals with privilege?
Catherine Newman - writer, blogger, columnist
How I want men to show up in the abortion conversation
11:18- “What’s the unexamined perspective, that men may have around abortion… where the curtain needs to be ripped back?"
12:39- Inequality parallels between racism conversations and abortion conversations
13:50 “What am I not seeing and what here is running the show?”
14:12 Speaking to the possibility of pregnancy in all relationships
15:19 Illuminating what we overlook
16:50 First sexual relationship and pregnancy as a teen
18:40 Getting comfortable with the elephants in the room
Exploring the calling to human beings to go deeper: breathe deeper, explore deeper, evolve and expand more
Lessons of Covid: Gratitude, Presence
Lessons after George Floyd’s murder: Listen, Feel, Adapt
Listen to the voices that haven’t been heard
22:45 Breaking through the surface level
23:50 “We’re in really new territory” … “If we try and think our way through it, it’s a really good start, but it will also be limiting”
25:43 “Many times we have to be in the actual experience to know what we are gonna do”
“Experience without thinking”
27:14 “In the moment I’m going to dedicate myself to showing up as much as I can”
27:51 “Allow ourselves to be impacted; allow ourselves to have the experience”
28:16 “What am I actually gonna do when I have to show up”
29:36 “The human experience is a shared human experience”
The value of practicing “feeling” to be prepared when we need most to step up and rise
Our feelings ask us to go to a much deeper place then we live in the day to day
34:20 “The illusion of control”
35:47 “The forces that perpetuate racism and the threat against women’s reproductive justice is male fear; white male fear…”
37:07 Chris’ conversations with other men about abortion
39:39 On difficult subjects, in challenging conversations “pace, pace, and then challenge”
42:00 Chris’ approach to parenting around sexual and reproductive health
49:09 “If we’re willing to be uncomfortable over a period of time, our own wisdom will arise”
